Many see the freedom in free trade as a sacred American value. But in their groundbreaking new book, INDUSTRIAL POLICY FOR THE UNITED STATES, Marc Fasteau and Ian Fletcher make the case that there is simply no such thing as free trade. They present overwhelming research arguing for a formal and forceful US industrial policy. Fasteau and Fletcher join host Gregg Fisher for a fascinating conversation about the ever-tricky marriage between government and big business.

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